Is Shade 1 MPS Photo Black no longer available?


#1

I just purchased a bottle of this at the end of June 2015 (PZK7-SEL-220-1), for the photo black position in a full Selenium setup. Has that shade been discontinued? I don’t see it available on the IJM website or available to re-order it from my sales history. The only photo black option is Warm Neutral, even when browsing the Selenium ink pages.


#2

We have consolidated to one high density, small particle, glossy compatible photo black WN-1. It is actually neutral as was Sel-1. The particle size is smaller as per WN-1. This is the best Photo Black we have every offered. I do not suspect anyone will find any differences other than slightly more dMax (never a bad thing…)


#3

Is the current WN1 the same formulation that Tyler and I tested some months ago, which it turned out was different to the previous formulation, which we both had used as a universal black? If it is, then I assume that the dMax on matte is still a fair bit less then NU1, so it’s still not suitable as a universal shade 1.


#4

I had been using the WN1 gloss black before, but it was so problematic with clogging dampers (2, both aftermarket and Oem) that I went with the pzk7-sel-1 to avoid it. I also had more problems with wn1 and the GO coating - the deepest blacks at levels below 5,5,5 in RGB would show through the GO with WN#1 even after 24hr dry down.

So, is this WN1 any different than the previous offering? Will custom curves be affected?


#5

It is not WN-1 nor SEL-1. We took the best qualities of both inks and combined into one. We are calling it WN-1 for the SKU but the name of the ink is Piezography Photo Black.

We equalized the glossiness and we are using a denser amount of smaller carbon particles. So, although we never intended one ink for a universal - this refinement combines good dMax on matte and eliminates the gloss differential and makes this the best photo black we are offering. Should not cause any curve problems.


#6

I was going to ask whether you’ll be updating the numbers in the “Black is Black” blog article, but I see that it’s no longer there. So my question becomes, will you be republishing them? After all, there was a lengthy debate about them earlier in the year. It would be helpful to see the numbers for this new hybrid gloss shade 1 on both matte and gloss without having to ship a bottle half-way around the world and measuring ourselves.


#7

We’ll do something either by blog or directly on the product page of the new webstore in January.


#8

Thanks, I ordered a bottle of the new shade 1 gloss. Can I add the new ink to the old shade 1 cartridge, or do I need to purge that channel and use a new cartridge for the new shade 1?


#9

They are fully compatible with each other. So you can add is you wish to.